Messy Growth
Welcome to Messy Growth, the podcast where SaaS founders hear the unfiltered truth about scaling. I’m Syed — I’ve spent over a decade in the trenches, growing SaaS companies from zero to tens of millions in revenue. On this show, I break down the wins, the mistakes, and the messy middle that nobody talks about. Let’s get into it
Messy Growth
Building Community, Leadership, and Growth with Barbara Derkowska and Wiktor Sobolak
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Syed Asad
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Episode 4
Barbara Derkowska (Fractional CMO) and Wiktor Sobolak (Head of Product at Text) join me to talk about building Warsaw's best growth meetup from a small group of friends to a must-attend tech event.
We cover:
- How they created a community-first event that actually delivers value (not another networking circus)
- Whether university still matters in 2025 - and what you should focus on instead
- The reality of leadership: why it's lonelier than people think and how to not burn out being everyone's umbrella
- Following your energy instead of your passion
- Why "good products sell themselves" is complete BS
Two people who actually build things instead of just talking about them. No fluff, no guru nonsense - just real experience from the trenches.